Here is my Carnival of the Godless submission:
I was born an atheist, and I’ll day an atheist. But you see, 23 days after I was born, I entered the ethereal realms of Catholicism. Born on the 4th, baptised on the 27th. So I spent 14 years of my life as a Catholic.
My mother was a catholic from Northern Ireland (yes, they *do* exist). My father grew up somewhat Catholic but became “born-again” sometime in his life.
So basically I grew up as Catholic as one can. Went to catholic school, church every sunday. I never really questioned God or JC.
That is, until one October (or maybe it was early November) night last year. I randomly googled ‘boy scouts evil’. I wound up at http://stupidevilbastard.com/, wherein the author talked about the boy scouts discriminating against atheists. Then it hit me: people who called themselves Christians, like I did myself, were total assholes.
After that I got into thinking. Previously, I had always thought of atheists as a bunch of silly grumpy stuck-up idiots. Now, I saw that they could be good people. I became a “sensible Christian”; that is, a christian who sides with atheists in regards to social issues
(Separation of Church and State, abortion*, etc).
I kept seeing more examples of Christians being assholes. Kids being expelled for being gay, 10 Commandments in Government, “Intelligent Design”. My faith was fading fast. Around January 25th, 2005, I finally said to myself “adults shouldn’t believe in fairy tales”. I was an atheist. Just like that. And you know what? I’ve never looked back.
*Yes, I know there are some pro-choice atheists.

November 14th, 2005 at 13:08 |
Can I propose to you, something…?
It doesn’t seem like you knew Jesus personally, but I would like to say that it is possible. The unseen world is not unreal. It is as real as the air I breathe. The Bible was never apologized for its bluntness. God is! and you either believe it or you don’t. Black and white. Just because you might not know the president of Uganda, doesn’t mean He does not exist. God does exist, but that revelation of God doesn’t come until we leave the room in our minds for that possibility.
thanks,
Ashish
November 14th, 2005 at 15:09 |
Ashish, those are really comforting words. They would have meant a great deal to me when I was Dante’s age, about 30 years ago. But not anymore. The unseen world is ‘as real as the air’? No, I think not. If that world had existence such that it could affect our world, the reverse would be true. You might say the only part of our world that the unseen world can ‘touch’ is in our minds (or our ’souls’ or ’spirits’). But if that is so, why should we believe this unseen world has any existence apart from our minds?
God is not like the President of Uganda. The President of Uganda is a human being, and as such can be seen, touched, heard. Anyone (with the proper, mundane resources) can see the Pres. of Uganda, hear his voice, shake his hand. That there exists a President of Uganda is a normal claim that can be verified by normal means. But the existence of God is not such a claim. None of the sense-evidence we would use for any normal claim is of use in verifying God.
As someone put it, ‘the invisible and the nonexistent look very much alike’.
November 14th, 2005 at 17:54 |
What I somewhat agree with the first statement (you believe or you don’t, sorry Agnostics), the rest is not logical.
In other words, what jackd said.
November 14th, 2005 at 21:11 |
I disagree that you necessarily believe or don’t believe. Now, it’s been argued that the basis of atheism is not a concrete belief that there is no God, but rather the lack of a belief in any such entities. One says “God does not exist”, and the other says “I don’t believe God does exist”. I tend to rank myself in with the latter, and as such, consider myself both an atheist and an agnostic. I find the idea that agnostics secretly don’t have room for God in their heads to be a little unnerving, but even if that were the case that would make an atheist on par with an agnostic nonetheless.
The problem is telling the difference, outside of semantics. When called to take an action, a person can take a course of action which relies upon the existence of God (and then some other principles), or relies on any principle(s) other than the existence of God. Atheists and agnostics, when forced to choose between them, could both act as though God did not exist, for no other reason than, at the time, God seemed like a less favorable option. Both would cast doubt on the reliability of God, although one speaks with far more certitude than the other.
November 15th, 2005 at 0:24 |
There is Religion, Cristian. Sperituality & Human.
You Can be Speritual and Christan without the Dogma created by humans in the name of Religion. Find peace in your beliefs and know that God beleives in you.
Peace and Love,
Scott
January 29th, 2007 at 18:35 |
I’m a peace loving, tree hugging, human hugging, spiritual, Atheist. I don’t commit crimes, I don’t kill babies, I rarely go above the speed limit, I love everybody, no matter what their religion or their skin color, or what country they were born in. I didn’t need some ferry tail creature to tell me how to do this; I learned it on my own. I was never Christian! How could I be such a model citizen and human being without Jesus?!?! It is possible.
Just like I don’t like being cut-off in rush-hour traffic…I don’t cut anybody else off. It’s the Golden Rule. If you haven’t heard of it, it’s what a lot of religions claim to promote. But nothing could be farther from the truth. Religions only promote the “we’re better than you” model of society.
Nobody needs God or god to be good. If you’re good only because you’re afraid of what God might do to you “after” you die, then you’re being good for all the wrong reasons. Be good to each other now, for the right reason: It’s your duty to be good to another, regardless of any reward or punishment.
Anybody can be good without God. In fact, I’m great without God!
October 30th, 2007 at 1:53 |
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September 17th, 2008 at 19:50 |
Can you give me any specific websites, tips, or advice on pointing my fella towards the rational path? He’s Catholic and I’m a former evangelical fundy (now happy atheist) but the religion mis-match is beginning to be a problem. Even if I can’t deconvert him, I’d at least like to help him understand why my deconversion isn’t because I’m “turning my back on God”. Email included, hope to hear from you!
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July 11th, 2009 at 18:16 |
Your decision’s fine as long as you acknowledge that your atheism is not a rational conclusion that God not not exist but rather a consequence of the hypocrisy of some or even most Christians. As a former Catholic I’d have thought you would recognise that the Sacrament of Confession/Reconciliation is an acknowledgement of the existence of the very thing that led you away – imperfection and hypocrisy on the part of Catholic and other Christians. We’re not perfect.